by Comyn » Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:48 pm
I wanted to pass on the following comment I received from an interested party in Australia via email. I agree with most of the points made, except perhaps that the film-makers seemed to want to get the initial reactions of modern day folks to the daily tasks of Iron Age peoples on film and if they had been trained before hand in any of the tasks there wouldn't have been much drama - it would have been more of a "re-enactment" than a "survival" experience. That said, I would have been much more interested in the former - for instance a documentary with the folks who run
Buster Ancient Farm would have been more to my taste than the reality show angle. Has there been anything of the sort recorded? I'd love to add that to my collection.
Initially I was a bit disapointed in the show, I think the idea was great, it had a lot of potential which was not actualised that I felt was by no means the participant's fault but rather the organisers of the show. Many ongoing problems which could have been solved early on rather than bogging down the whole experiece for everyone could have been prevented it, rather than just tossing everyone in together like rats in a sack, they actually did some preparation before-hand, rather like the group training exercises, spending more than a couple of hours the night before together to get a better feel for who would make the best leader of the group.
People in that environment would most likely have grown up together, they would have had a history that would allow group dynamics to grow and evolve over time and though some changes may have been made dramatically, it makes sense to me that we have this sort of group dynamic established to some degree before-hand. I know the whole reality tv aspect wants to see some drama, but it was a show about whether modern day people could survive iron age life, not about whether complete strangers could co-exist without killing each other in primitive conditions.
They did do some obvious screening to get people with the basic skills that would be needed, but unnecessary stresses affected them all on a fundamental level. Simple needs that should have been dealt with and solved early on were issues all through the show. It did show me how important the right person to be leader would be, that the groups very survival depended on it. Its all very well and good to think that I knew this on a purely intellectual level, but to see it in action was a bit of a shock. My ideals that a group could function and survive nay even flourish with a more....democratic? lifestyle, who knows, maybe they did in some cases. But the fact was rather forced home that one poor leader and a whole tribe could die out. Not a bad person per se, just the wrong person for the job. It also showed me that the leadership style needed was perhaps something a modern day westerner would have a lot of trouble coping in a group where you did what you were told no debate, no questions asked. I like to think that I could adapt and survive the "primitive" lifestyle, learn the skills needed to survive, but would I be able to cope with the leadership style and group mentaility? The lack of modern conveniences that are taken for granted? There a parts that I would love, parts the I obviously idealised unrealistically and parts that as a modern woman, I would struggle with.
The fight for survival became a bit more understandable, "why all the warring and fighting, can't people just get along?" Well, our crops failed or sickeness decimated our tribe and nothing is ready for the cold season...The neighouring tribes barely have enough to survive and certainly can't share....
The show is something that I will definitely watch again, perhaps in a few more months. As for a favourite person, well I liked the young fella who had some neo-druidic backgound, can't think of his name off hand. And the jeweller? who left early.
Well, those are some intial thoughts and ramblings, I am interested in what you think, if and how the show affected you as a person re-enacting the iron age life. Who do you think out of that group would have made the best leader?
I wanted to pass on the following comment I received from an interested party in Australia via email. I agree with most of the points made, except perhaps that the film-makers seemed to want to get the initial reactions of modern day folks to the daily tasks of Iron Age peoples on film and if they had been trained before hand in any of the tasks there wouldn't have been much drama - it would have been more of a "re-enactment" than a "survival" experience. That said, I would have been much more interested in the former - for instance a documentary with the folks who run [url=http://www.butserancientfarm.co.uk/]Buster Ancient Farm[/url] would have been more to my taste than the reality show angle. Has there been anything of the sort recorded? I'd love to add that to my collection.
[quote] Initially I was a bit disapointed in the show, I think the idea was great, it had a lot of potential which was not actualised that I felt was by no means the participant's fault but rather the organisers of the show. Many ongoing problems which could have been solved early on rather than bogging down the whole experiece for everyone could have been prevented it, rather than just tossing everyone in together like rats in a sack, they actually did some preparation before-hand, rather like the group training exercises, spending more than a couple of hours the night before together to get a better feel for who would make the best leader of the group.
People in that environment would most likely have grown up together, they would have had a history that would allow group dynamics to grow and evolve over time and though some changes may have been made dramatically, it makes sense to me that we have this sort of group dynamic established to some degree before-hand. I know the whole reality tv aspect wants to see some drama, but it was a show about whether modern day people could survive iron age life, not about whether complete strangers could co-exist without killing each other in primitive conditions.
They did do some obvious screening to get people with the basic skills that would be needed, but unnecessary stresses affected them all on a fundamental level. Simple needs that should have been dealt with and solved early on were issues all through the show. It did show me how important the right person to be leader would be, that the groups very survival depended on it. Its all very well and good to think that I knew this on a purely intellectual level, but to see it in action was a bit of a shock. My ideals that a group could function and survive nay even flourish with a more....democratic? lifestyle, who knows, maybe they did in some cases. But the fact was rather forced home that one poor leader and a whole tribe could die out. Not a bad person per se, just the wrong person for the job. It also showed me that the leadership style needed was perhaps something a modern day westerner would have a lot of trouble coping in a group where you did what you were told no debate, no questions asked. I like to think that I could adapt and survive the "primitive" lifestyle, learn the skills needed to survive, but would I be able to cope with the leadership style and group mentaility? The lack of modern conveniences that are taken for granted? There a parts that I would love, parts the I obviously idealised unrealistically and parts that as a modern woman, I would struggle with.
The fight for survival became a bit more understandable, "why all the warring and fighting, can't people just get along?" Well, our crops failed or sickeness decimated our tribe and nothing is ready for the cold season...The neighouring tribes barely have enough to survive and certainly can't share....
The show is something that I will definitely watch again, perhaps in a few more months. As for a favourite person, well I liked the young fella who had some neo-druidic backgound, can't think of his name off hand. And the jeweller? who left early.
Well, those are some intial thoughts and ramblings, I am interested in what you think, if and how the show affected you as a person re-enacting the iron age life. Who do you think out of that group would have made the best leader?
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